http://www.seattlepi.com/tvguide/409812_tvgif2.html

Michael was an adult and yes, responsible for his three children. But what can anyone do to make someone stop (or start) something? He had the resources and means to do or get what he wanted. The choice was ultimately Michael’s and he died for it.

Neither Katherine, Joe or any of his sisters and brothers never had a clue? I don’t buy it. Not one Jackson family member or friend stepped in and did an intervention for MJ. Plus, MJ was the sole parent of 3 young children. He had a moral responsiblity as a parent and yet he chose to get high every single night of the week. It’s sad and I hope it teaches all of us to not look to Hollywood for role models.

i couldnt believe it wen i heard michael had died on the news, he was my hero im only 20 but my whole life was based around him.

i went to see him in concert in 94 it was his dangerous tour i fink i cnt remeber that far bck but it was the best moment in my life apart from having my daughter, sarah u may have felt sum pain but think about the rest of us that loved him…… we feel the pain 2 x x x x x

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31572801/ns/entertainment-picture_stories/displaymode/1247/?beginSlide=1&beginChapter=1&beginTab=1#

First of all, my last post to you was in regards to the post you made accusing Hilary of writing posts and crediting you for them. Saying you have an email where Hilary states she would block anything she didn’t like. I think that merits knowing the full context of what she said in her email but I don’t really care. I’ve read her site for as longs as she’s had it and have an idea of the site owner/moderator she is. You said good bye but came back a few days later to respond to my post. So please forgive me that I find that a bit uncivil or irrational (good bye, hello, good bye…)

But I’m not here to talk about you, per se. I want to discuss Michael Jackson and his death, the doctors and extreme amount of drugs he obtained.

I can understand Michael getting repercussions from his family after he spoke of the abuse he experienced in childhood. His father Joe Jackson, always dreamed of big or bigger things (in my opinion) more for himself than his family. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he was angry Michael spoke of his very strict or stringent upbringing and punishments he was given. Not the best publicity for the family.

As for his cosmetic surgeries, I think it supports the theory I have that Michael’s pain was more than physical, but emotional as well. Whatever unresolved issues he had with his father, his lack of self esteem (not as an entertainer.) I think he was fighting his own demons that he didn’t know how to deal with it other than drugs and more drugs.

I also mentioned Michale’s nose about how his father told him it was too big. Hence the ever changing noses. Not surprised it caused breathing problems. Sometimes my seeing it, gave me breathing problems. I truly hope he has found his peace, though he’s not been buried.

Sarah, are you so sure a little bit of psychological sessions would not have helped Michael ease up on his drug abuse? It’s rare that any one of us would have “no options.” We always have a choice, though we don’t always like the alternative.

As for his family not yet laying him to rest, I’m thinking it seems to be Joe Jackson that’s in the forefront of Michael’s burial. Perhaps Joe is looking to maximize (exploit) the event. More attention, more money since that is what papa Jackson seems to be about. I can’t prove that, but it’s the impression I have.

The latest news of Michael’s death being ruled a homocide should prove to be interesting. Right now, Dr. Conrad Murray is a primary target, but I hope Dr. Arnie Klein is also held accountable and culpable. With his own mouth and words, he said he gave Michael drugs. All remains to be seen but I will keep an ear/eye out for the developing story.

I’m sorry you lost your son. I’m also sorry you’re in pain. Do you have Reflux Sympathetic Dystrophy? I just hope you are as well as you can be.

Till next time Sarah…
(Try to send it to comments instead of Hilary’s email, okay?)

Sarah, the reason I am putting “From Sarah” on your comments is because they are coming in as EMAILS not COMMENTS. In order for your comments to be seen by everyone I have to copy and paste them in.

As I’m sure you can see I copy and paste your comments word for word. I would never put words into someone’s mouth.

-Hilary

HI MO,

HOPE ALL IS WELL?

HIS FAMILY WENT THAT WAY ALL DUE TO HIM OPENING UP OVER HIS CHILD HOOD..

THE JACKSON FAMILY IN GENERAL EX MICHAEL / JERMAINE? , ARE NOT SO NICE, THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW AND THE COMMON MAN (AND THAT’S SAD GIVEN THAT THEY TOO WERE ONCE POOR AND ALMOST ON THE STREETS, IT WAS ONLY THE TALENT OF THE KIDS THAT GOT THEM ANYTHING,) AND ARE TO BE TREATED AS ROYALTY..

THERE WERE FAMILY REASONS AS WELL AS MEDICAL THAT HE HAD SO MUCH COSMETIC SURGERY, 1ST WAS PART OF HIM WANTED TO LOOK LIKE HIS IDOL DIANA ROSS (NOT SURE IF THAT ONE IS SANE) BUT THE MAIN REASON WAS THAT AFTER HIS CHILDHOOD, HE WANTED TO CHANGE HIS LOOK, HE HAD BEEN TOLD HE LOOKED LIKE HIS DAD, HE HATED IT. SO BIT BY BIT HE HAD SO MUCH SURGERY THAT YOU WOULD NEVER THINK HE WAS A JACKSON. WITH HIS NOSE IT GOT TO THE POINT THAT IT CAUSED BREATHING PROBLEMS AND HE HAD TO HAVE OXYGEN WHEN SLEEPING, AND ON THE LAST LOT THEY HAD TO BRING HIM HOME ON AN I.V WITH ROUND CLOCK ANTIBIOTICS.THEY SHOULD HAVE FOUND OXYGEN TANKS, I.V POLE AND A MEDICAL TROLLEY IN THE HOUSE, ANTIBIOTICS (MILKY COLOR) AND DIABETIC NEEDLES, INSULIN (MILKY COLOR), ANTIHISTAMINE MEDS AS AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, CERTAIN DRUGS CAUSE A RASH, MY OXICONTINE DID THAT TO ME.. THEY ALSO SHOULD HAVE FOUND AMPOULES’ OF ADRENALINE. YOU OFTEN GET A REACTION TO SOME MEDS AND WHEN YOU GET ONE, YOU HAVE TO SELF INJECT ASAP OR YOU STOP BREATHING. XANAX , OXYCONTINE ETC, BASICALLY THE LIST I WROTE ON HERE THE VERY FIRST POST… AS YOU SAID THERE WAS NO WAY I COULD KNOW AND THE CORONER HAD ONLY JUST GOT HIM, NO RESULTS OUT..

ANYWAY,

MICHAEL SAW THE WORLD IN ANOTHER WAY, HE HAD FANS THAT GOT HIM TO THE TOP, AND HE RESPECTED THEM FOR GETTING HIM THERE!!
I REMEMBER HIS 45TH BIRTHDAY, IT WAS PRACTICALLY OPEN HOUSE.. HE HAD SENT INVITATIONS TO FANS TO ATTEND, AND ALTHOUGH HE WAS NOT IN THE CROWD WITH THEM (HE WOULD HAVE BEEN CRUSHED) HE HAD A PLATFORM AND HE CAME IN AND OUT… HE WAS THERE FOR HIS FANS.

AS FAR AS WEANING ANYONE OFF THEIR MEDICATION WITH THESE ILLNESSES, NOT AN OPTION. WHEN YOUR IN SUCH A STATE THAT IT HURTS YOUR FINGERS TO WRITE A MESSAGE, OR HURTS YOUR EYELIDS TO HOLD YOUR EYES OPEN, HURTS YOUR CHEST TO BREATH…A LIGHT STRING BRACELET IS TOO MUCH TO HAVE ON YOUR WRIST, YOU HAVE NO OPTION…., ITS SAD BUT ITS TRUE, EVERYDAY YOU WAKE UP, INSTEAD OF THINKING WHAT CAN I DO TODAY, ITS MORE LIKE O FCK ANOTHER DAY OF HELL.. SO UNFORTUNATE, ITS A NO GO…
AS FAR AS THE OTHER DR YES I WAS REFERRING TO DR KLEIN ? (I THINK THAT WAS HIS NAME, BUT IT WAS AGES AGO), ALTHOUGH HIS COSMETIC SURGEON DID NOT HELP..

WHAT I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND IS WHY WONT THEY LAY HIM TO REST…. SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT…. HE HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 2 MONTHS??? EVEN WITH EMBALMING, THE STATE OF HIS BODY WOULD BE HORRID. HIS EYE’S WOULD HAVE LIQUEFIED, EXTERNAL FLESH WOULD HAVE ROTTED AND WITH ALL THAT, WHAT IS LEFT WOULD BE LAYING IN WHAT LOOKED LIKE A POOL OF DIRTY WATER… HOW COULD ANY MOTHER NOT LAY HER CHILD TO REST? SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG….

ARE THEY KEEPING HIM LIKE THAT TO KEEP HIM IN THE NEWS SO THEY CAN PULL IN MORE MONEY OR WHAT?
I LOST MY SON IN JAN THIS YR, HE WAS 26 AND PROUDLY BOASTED THAT HE WAS BORN IN THE USA…. HE WAS ARMY AND PROUD OF IT… HE HUNG HIMSELF AS HIS GIRL DID THE WRONG THING TO HIM… HE LEFT BEHIND A 5YR SON…. DUE TO THIS GIRL, I HAD NOT SEEN HIM IN 6 MONTHS, I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AS MY SISTER WAS HIGH UP IN POLICE FORCE.. EVEN IN DEATH, THIS GIRL CLAIMED HE HAD NO FAMILY AND GOT HIS BODY AND CREMATED HIM… BY THE TIME I FOUND OUT, I COULD NOT EVEN GET AN INTERVENTION TO BURIED MY OWN SON. IT IS UN-THINKABLE TO HAVE A LOVED-ONE DIE AND TO THEN PROLONG LAYING THEM TO REST.

SO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH HIS FAMILY, ARE THEY MILKING IT OR ARE THEY JUST SICK?

AND MO,

I AM SORRY MO FOR YOU THINKING ME UNCIVILIZED ON MY LAST MESSAGE, BUT FAIR GO MATE, I DID NOT SHOOT OFF, I SIMPLY STATED IN A POLITE MANNER THAT IT IS WRONG FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, “THIS IS FROM SARAH” …….IT IS ONE THING TO SCREEN A MESSAGE AS IN PROOF READ IT THEN LET IT POST, BUT TO TAKE IT AND THEN HAVE IT APPEAR THAT IT HAS COME FROM HILLARY WITH HER SAYING “THIS IS WHAT SARAH SAID” BLOODY HELL, THAT IS JUST WAY TOO MUCH MATE….. SHE CAN MAKE OUT I HAVE SAID STUFF THAT I HAVE NOT SAID, AND I WOULD BE IN THE LINE OF FIRE WITH NO DEFENSE… CRIKEY…… I JUST CANT WIN CAN I. I HAD NOT BEEN TO THE SITE UNTIL A NOTICE IN MY MAIL ALERTED ME THAT THERE WAS AN UPDATE ON THE SITE AND IT HAD SAID “HAS ANYONE SEEN SARAH” I HAD STAYED AWAY AS EVERYTHING I TRIED TO SAY GOT SHOT DOWN, EDITED OR NOT POSTED AT ALL.AND ANYONE THAT MADE A COMMENT THAT APPEARED TO BACK ME UP, DID NOT GET THRU. BUT JUST ON 1 LITTLE SELF DEFENSE POST THAT I STATED OF WHICH WAS POLITE, BANG BANG BIG BAD ME?????????ALL BECAUSE WHEN I WAS READING POSTS, I NOTICED THAT MINE HAD BEEN DOWN UNDER HER NAME, MEANING THAT SHE COULD PUT IN ALL KINDS OF CRAP AND MAKE OUT ITS ME??? THANKS A LOT MATE

SARAH

If you’ll notice a few posts back, Hilary explained that she would withhold your comments lashing out. It’s her site, she will man it as she sees fit. Freedom of Speech isn’t a card to speak ill of people.

Bye Sarah. Hope your life isn’t as tumultuous as your posts on here.

How sad it is Michael was in such a tough spot. I think perhaps many addicts are. As for his family staying out of it, maybe they were trying the “tough love” approach and MICHAEL needed to want to ween himself off the drugs. I don’t know and I’m not trying to slam you or Michael with that statement. Just a question on my part and I’m not sure we’ll ever really know.

I agree Michael was in a jam; having a love hate relationship with the media. They allowed him no privacy, yet he needed them to be relevant. Being in the business he was in, media is just a part of it. Though I don’t always approve of media tactics.

When you say his previous doctor started him on the heavy duty stuff, are you referring to Arnie Klein? Regardless, I don’t trust him either.

I’m sorry you’re ill and in pain. Hope all went well with your surgery. Take care of yourself, Sarah. And thanks for responding when you can.

HI MO,

THANKS FOR YOUR LETTER…

MICHAEL WAS KIND OF IN A JAM AS ALTHOUGH HIS FAMILY KNEW HE WAS ILL AND IN PAIN, TO THEM IT WAS A BLEMISH ON THE JACKSON NAME, THEY DID NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT..

THAT WHY YOU NEVER REALLY SAW HIS FAMILY AROUND HIM VERY MUCH..

I HAVE THE SAME ILLNESSES AS MICHAEL, AND ALTHOUGH I DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE ANETHISETIC DRUGS USED ON HIM.WE TALKED ALOT ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON MEDICALLY. HOW LONG WE WOULD LIVE, OUR THRESH HOLD POINTS, AND EVEN AN EXIT STAGE. I CAN TELL YOU NOW, THAT MICHAEL WOULD HAVE HATED WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO HIM NOW…ALTHOUGH HE DID NOT GO BACK TO NEVERLAND AFTER THE COURT CRAP, HE WANTED TO BE UNDER HIS WISHING TREE AND HAVE IT RUN LIKE A THEME PARK (BUT MONEY WAS TO GO TO HIS CHARITIES) JUST LIKE PART OF HIS ESTATE WAS MEANT TO.

IT WAS SO HARD FOR HIM, I CAN SIT IN BED AND DO NOTHING, AND ONLY WORK JOBS MY AGENT GETS ME THAT ARE MINIMAL, SHUT THE WORLD OUT AND NO ONE WOULD KNOW, BUT YOUR CULTURE IS JUST NOT THE SAME, HE HAD MEDIA AND A TOTAL CALL ON HIM, HE WAS DYING AND HE WAS NOT IN A POSITION TO TELL THEM TO LEAVE HIM ALONE.. FIRST OF ALL, HE IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT I HAVE MET THAT SO RESPECTS HIS FANS… HE LOVED THEM..NO MATTER THE PAIN, HE WOULD BE THERE FOR THEM. HE HAD HIS MANAGER WANTING HIM TO DO APPROX 150 SHOWS ACROSS USA, THEN THE 50 IN LONDON FOLLOWED BY A WORLD TOUR. HIS MANAGER AND DOCTOR KNEW THAT HE COULD NOT DO IT BUT WANTED HIM DRUGGED ENOUGH TO DO IT , I DON’T TAKE MUCH NOTICE OF NEWS AS IT IS MOSTLY CRAP, BUT HIS PREVIOUS DR STARTED HIM ON THE HEAVY DUTY STUFF, SO HE SHOULD BE ON TRIAL FOR CRIMES UNDER DEA AS WOULD ALL NURSES THAT WORKED THERE…

THE FACT THAT HE WAS A MALE WOULD HAVE MADE IT WORSE, AS OUT OF 100% THAT GOT IT ,ONLY 5% WERE MALE

I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT THIS MOMENT AS I TRY TO TYPE THIS TO YOU, IS LIKE KNIFES IN MY SPINE, ARMS, HEAD ETC

IF YOU HAD ASKED ME THIS QUESTION 7 DAYS AGO, I WOULD HAVE SAID NO WAY TO GOING UNDER, BUT THEY HAD TO OP ON ME AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, PAIN STOPPED, AND ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT BY GOD, TO GO BACK FOR JUST THAT MINUTE OF NO TIME, NO FEELING NO PAIN.

I WILL HAVE TO FINISH THIS EMAIL TO YOU IN THE MORNING AS I PHYSICALLY CANT TYPE ANYMORE TONIGHT.

NITE .

Assuming you did know Michael on a personal level– I agree with you that his doctors gave him drugs intended for hospital use only. I remember reading one doctor who was suggesting another drug that worked even better than the one he was already taking. The doctors, be it for notoriety or money, got Michael the drugs that in Michael’s mind (my belief he was an addict and was dealing with unresolved emotional/psychological issues) relieved him from discomfort. The doctors facilitated and provided the drugs.

Michael, an adult, who sought relief from pain/illness, I believe, crossed over to the point of not so much dependence, but addiction. More drugs for more relief. Doctor shopping. Those were actions Michael chose for himself. His doctors, I hold negligent and responsible for continuing to give him drugs or more drugs.

I wonder what it would have been had Michael sought psychological counseling or analysis? Had anyone in Michael’s circle suggested it to him?

Sarah, did you ever talk to Michael about what it is you’ve posted above? If so, what was his response?

Thanks.

HI, IN PART I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT MY BEEF IS THAT WHEN MICHAEL GOT SICK, HIS DOCTOR DID NOT TREAT HIM ON THE STANDARD LINE OF DRUG’S E.G.: OXYCONTIN; VALIUM; THE DOCTOR WENT STRAIGHT INTO THE HEAVY DUTY, HOSPITAL ONLY DRUGS ON TOP OF THE STANDARD LINE OF TREATMENT DRUGS.

THE DRUGS THAT THEY FOUND WERE ALL HOSPITAL ONLY DRUGS, WHICH TO ME ONLY ADDS TO THE PROOF THAT THE DOCTOR WANTED HIM ADDICTED SO THAT HE WOULD BE HOOKED AND IN NEED OF THE DOCTOR.

YES WITH THE PAIN OF THIS ILLNESS, IF SOMEONE GIVES YOU SOMETHING AND FOR A PART OF TIME YOUR PAIN FREE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU WOULD BE WISHING THAT YOU COULD BE IN THAT STATE ALL THE TIME..

AS AN EXAMPLE, I MYSELF HAD SURGERY TO ? CANCER, BUT AS I HAVE A FEAR OF NEEDLES, THEY GAVE ME GAS JUST BEFORE THE NEEDLE, AND FOR THAT VERY SHORT TIME, THERE WAS NO PAIN, NOW A FEW DAYS LATTER, I SIT HERE WISHING THAT I WAS BACK IN THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME, WITHOUT PAIN….

THE THING IS, THAT THE DOCTOR GAVE HIM DRUGS THAT WERE HOSPITAL ONLY AND IF HE HAD NOT CROSSED THAT BORDER, THEN MICHAEL WOULD BE ALIVE.

YOU CAN ONLY BECOME ADDICTED TO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN OR HAD TAKEN, AND THE DRUGS THAT DID THE DAMAGE COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN OBTAINED VIA HIS DOCTOR..

FOR PERSONAL REASONS I HAVE TO GO FOR NOW..

SARAH

As far as seeing justice, that’s what this is about. The untimely and unnecessary death of Michael Jackson.

I believe he was a junkie even if he didn’t start out that way. With all the drugs found since his death only affirms that, for me. I believe he is responsible for his actions just like I believe Dr. Conrad Murray is at the very least, culpable in Michael’s death. All remains to be seen if justice will triumph.

HI, SORRY FOR CAPS LOCK, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR YOU, IF YOU HAVE PERSONAL ITEMS WITH ANYONE, BE IT PHOTO’S OR LETTER’S AND ITS SOMETHING PRIVATE ,THEN IT IS MEANT TO BE KEPT SILENT.. PEOPLE ALWAYS TAKE THINGS AND BLOW IT UP AND I DID NOT THINK THAT THIS WAS APPROPRIATE. APART FROM TALKING TO DETECTIVE NELSON ROBBERY / HOMICIDE I HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ELSE TO ANYONE ELSE SO THAT THE CASE REMAINS CONTAINED, OF WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND. SO FORGIVE ME IF YOU DO NOT LIKE MY MESSAGE BUT I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SEE JUSTICE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE.

REGARDS

SARAH

I can’t say I miss her but I don’t think we should try to bring her out if we only want to “go at” her. Her posts were a bit bizarre to me, and I disagreed with most of them. I don’t want to have a “go at” her but I’m willing to challenge her or anyone’s post, if I feel the need to question it.

It’s quite possible she and Michael worked together on a non-profit charitable organization. I just wish she’d stated it sooner than towards the end of her postings. She couldn’t provide proof, other than her words; no pictures, shared emails, links. Maybe she was trying to protect Michael’s privacy? She never said why she couldn’t or wouldn’t support her claims of knowing Michael personally since I don’t think she felt she had to. Just to take her word for it on a blog site on the World Wide Web.

Anyway, I find it interesting the information learned of Michael Jackson’s death since Sarah (Miss CAPS from Down Under) last posted. The doctor shopping, raid of Dr. Murray’s home and offices, millions found/turned over… I’m almost curious to know what Sarah thinks of all that but she wasn’t a very nice debater. Oh well…it’s the WWW.

Hope she’s well though.

Sarah got your message, below is her response.

-Hilary

HAVE YOU NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN HAVE A GO AT ME???

I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TO YOU AS IT IS A WASTE OF MY TIME..

SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU GO ELSEWHERE IF YOU JUST WANT TO TALK CRAP…