Michael Jackson’s Death Just Might Be A Homicide

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1. Mo Says:
   July 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

   Time will reveal information that may or may not shock many. Learning more and more, that Michael’s dependence on drugs began after his scalp was burned from a pyrotechnic mishap while shooting a Pepsi commercial in 1984.

   Holy crap! That’s 25 years of drug dependence! How very sad for Michael and his children.

   I hope those who played a role in Michael obtaining excessive drugs are held accountable, culpable and responsible. Whether he “needed” the meds to ease his pain or not doesn’ justify his death simply because of it.

2. Anonymous Says:
   October 13th, 2011 at 8:12 am

   Has anyone ever thought that Michael Jackson, facing the stress & his apparent fear of being accepted (or perhaps not in his mind) back on tour, even the name of his tour, being, “This is it”, so much video-taping of his rehearsals (which seemed excessive & certainly didn’t seem to be done before), that he might have just committed suicide through his doctors?

   When I saw him announce his, “This is it” tour, I wondered even then, if he hadn’t had this in mind. He had to have known he wasn’t likely to get an insurance clearance, and wouldn’t have had he likely not played his doctor so well.

   I doubt he ever thought his own personal doctor would take the fall for this, or perhaps he was so depressed that he no longer cared?

   He had to know when he was getting cold, etc. that he was not doing well physically & was likely near death even then.

   It seems to me with SO much taping of his “rehearsals” at the Staples center that he knew that this was it… And perhaps he choreographed his own death?

   He clearly was a very smart man & knew the media well, yet seemed to be naive about how he was viewed by others & how situations were viewed by others.

   Sure, his doctor was sucked into this & it seems clear he was FAR too close to Mr. Jackson, yet others die from doctor’s mistakes every year, sadly roughly 250,000 in America alone, yet most of the time there is no trial, only an acceptance that the person is dead, even if it was a dosing issue, which sadly, mistakes are made all the time, yet rarely is there ever a lawsuit or even arbitration.

   The “Standards of Care” the doctors for the prosecution talked about are clearly out of a textbook & are not realistic, not even in the hospital one doctor who testified works at. I’ve been treated in the hospital where he practices & the facts are that yes, I’ve been left alone after a procedure, bee left alone in the ER with alarms going off & no nurse showed up for about an hour & a half to even check on me with alarms going off. Anyone who’s been treated at, or works at (or has worked at), that or other hospitals knows that those, “Ideal standards” are not always followed, doctors get called away from patients right out of surgery & nurses & other staff are not always available. The nurses at CMH hospital were just on strike around the time Mr. Jackson died as a result of under-staffing, work conditions, substandard patient care, insurance for nurses, etc. & I’m sure the defense will be on that & surprised they haven’t been already.

   I have had an endoscopy with propofol & other medications (You do not use propofol in a vacuum, as it apparently burns & is given with other drugs (Versed & Fentanyl usually), and yet I have NEVER been told it was an, “addictive, dangerous drug(s)”, yet was told that any time you go under that there are risks, and handed tons of forms that I was rushed to sign without reading, of which had an arbitration agreement that basically states that if the doctor screws up, then you are agreeing not to sue (even in the event of gross negligence), and yes, I was left alone after being given what the doctor stated was a “Propofol Cocktail” (after I’d asked the staff to tell me what I’d been given, after my procedure was done – Had I not asked, I would never have known what I was given!), in the hospital & without the monitoring devices that the doctor from that hospital stated was, “Gross Negligence” to NOT have those things available, and in the hospital he is from.

   I also find it difficult to believe that this doctor doesn’t know any doctors that use Propofol, as my doctor did & is in the same building as him that BTW is connected to the hospital in Ventura by a bridge that goes from a surgery suite to the hospital.

   If only we did get that kind of care all the time? I’ve had that care at surgery centers, but almost never at the hospital that one of the expert witnesses is from, so are ALL these medical personnel “grossly negligent?”

   If you’ve ever had surgery, or even dental work, do you know what your doctor &/or dentist has given you? Are you aware that in root canals, you are not only given novacaine, but also a paste is used topically that generally includes corticosteroids, yet if you asked the dentist o tell you what you were given, you’d get an answer of, “Just Novacaine” & perhaps Novacaine enhanced with epinepherine (which is standard, yet are you ever given a list pre-procedure of everything they are going to be using? Of course not! Especially in surgery! A doctor may need to change a dose or medication during the procedure, yet does that make it a “deviation from the standard of care?” “gross negligence?” I should hope not & should hope there was more trust between a doctor & patient than that!

   When we put ourselves in the care of any doctor, there needs to be a trust that that doctor will do his or her best, yet in areas where medical care is limited, or if a patient is on Medi-Cal or Medicare only (both are generally low-income forms of insurance, and care for these patients is rationed.)

   A doctor may order tests he or she feels is necessary, yet once the doctor has been told that a patient has a low-paying insurance, those orders can change quickly. Insurance also affects what is ordered in the 1st place, if a doctor already knows, thus a patient with “movie industry” insurance (some of the best paying, most comprehensive insurance) can expect to get FAR better & FAR more comprehensive treatment that a patient with lesser insurance.

   Those patient with more comprehensive insurance generally will be the 1st taken into the hospital for a “full work-up” even if another patient needs one and is FAR sicker, the hospitals will send another patient home, who by triage is far sicker & yet the doctors know administrators will frown on a work-up of even the sickest of patients and even send a patient with lesser insurance home with even a dangerous condition, yes even the hospital where this cardiologist was from in Ventura, CA that testified.

   They ALL know hospitals can’t afford to care for the lesser insured & those with limited incomes are given minimal care at best, and “documentation” is usually doctored to reflect that these patients are more comprehensively evaluated than they were &/or that their medical problems are less severe than they really are. So while CMH hospital in Ventura does much automated documentation, much of it is doctored, depending on the insurance a patient has. Their clinics are run the same way & generally cater to the poor, so you get better care if your doctor is not part of their system, you are likely to get better care, thus the push for Medi-Cal HMO programs state-wide. These patients are forced to see doctors who are within the system.

   Even patients with dangerous clots have been sent home, only to have to return for more procedures, and family members are asked to watch them.

   It seems to become more and more clear that if there is to be any equality in healthcare & if doctors are expected to always follow any sort of, “Standard of care” – for everyone, that we need to get rid of the insurance companies & have a national health care system. This way hospitals can stay open, doctors get paid the same, no matter who they see, and we can avoid some of the situations where doctors & nurses don’t fudge records & other documentation, because they are afraid of being sued for discharging patients they know darn well they should not & keeping others simply because they have great healthcare insurance.

   It is sad that Mr. Jackson died, sad that his doctor is on trial, yet when the doctors doing reviews for the state of CA and for the courts pretend they follow the textbook “standards of care”, when clearly that is subject to those who have the best insurance – medical, dental & vision, ALL of which can affect or be indicators of other health issues, then something needs to be done.

   Hopefully Propofol will be regulated more strictly by the FDA, but the issues of equality in health care, as insurance companies have clearly made some people, as my doctor puts it, “more equal than others”, and the experiences of so many people all over America, seem to indicate that in order that ALL people be treated equally, that it is time to take a hard look into a national health care system that includes ALL parts of the body, including dental (& all the sub-specialties) and vision (with all those sub-specialties) as well as preventative care, all specialties for necessary healthcare (which may mean different things to different people.) ALL specialties need to be covered, regardless of the pressures of insurance companies & drug company’s pressures, as well as companies like “MedCo” & others, which are limit care across the board, and answer not to patients, but to stockholders, which should NEVER be the case. Patients need to have access to care that their doctors & other health care professionals, including acupuncturist, chiropractors, alternative care providers, etc. need to ALL be included, and if a patient wants a second or even a 3rd opinion, they need to be granted that & without being mounted with a ton of paperwork. It needs to be given to patients immediately & at whichever facility a person feels is best for their condition. The resources, guidance, etc. in every discipline need to be accessible to everyone.

   ANY condition which affects a person’s ability to remain or become healthy, presentable and able to be the healthiest they can be, as well as work (even part-time if a “disabled person” is able to work) needs to be supported, even if that means cosmetic surgery that affects one’s hire-ability, which has been documented over & over, yet ignored in the poor keeping them that way. We need to stop punishing the poor & disabled for wanting to work, and start enabling people to be able to work without taking huge financial risks.

   Those that are disabled, weather because of their celebrity or limited, fixed income, need to have equal access to comprehensive health care, swimming, gyms, etc. in every community. Access to care that is not available in any given community, or that is limited in any community, such as rural areas, or if a patient has a condition, or conditions not treated, or only treated by one or a few doctors in their area, there needs to be extended transportation to & from care outside their area AND local transportation as well for any medical care. Those with rare disorders need to have access to care, even if that means clinical trials, which helps further care for everyone, should they want to try a treatment that might better their life, they should be enabled to try it, it should be well documented in order to help others, like any good study, and medications, experimental or not, need to be covered… e.g. if a person with cancer, diabetes, nerve deterioration, an so on, should have the ability to medically benefit from a treatment, and they understand that it is experimental, they should be enabled to get that treatment, as the research & outcomes help everyone in the long run, helps the development of new treatments, therapies, techniques and medications, thus furthering scientific advancements for ALL Americans – something we all need & are sadly FAR behind other countries in this area.

   Medications that are needed must be 100% covered as well.

   There are some countries that do socialized medicine poorly, others that do a good job, some even better. There is no reason anyone who is in need of healthcare, including vision & dental, both of which can have a serious affect on health or be an indicator of the need for further care.

   Doctors & other health care professionals need to have a great standard of care, and that should NEVER be compromised, and the “false documentation” issues, because of “insurance status”, or a patients’ “difficult health problems” needs to be obliterated.

   Doctors need to be paid equally, based on the same criteria of expertise and location, as other government jobs are based. To have some doctors getting paid more for treating celebrities, or even testifying in a case where a celebrity is involved makes a mockery of the system, as does the televising of a deceased celebrity. Our health records should belong to us, as these are our bodies, as it is in other countries.

   Mr. Jackson, and his family’s privacy has been forever violated. Why do we allow these opinions of personal issues to be strewn all over TV? This should make us all be concerned about our privacy, and that of our families’.

   From the beginnings of this trial, I have been asking myself, with the HIPAA Act & other protections in place, who is protecting these children from some doctors’ & others’ beliefs that addiction runs in families, and how are these children to dodge the bullet of bias when these kids grow up, and may have a problem, such as lupus (which seems to be hereditary), where they may be in pain, yet may be denied care as a result of such a public trial of the treatment of their father’s addiction?

   There are many issues that this trial has brought up, many of which seem to have been poorly thought out, yet coordination of care & accuracy of documenting care, as well as a patients’ ability to be involved in that care, yet to have adequate pain control, without going overboard, seems to be clear that if coordination of care had been a part of Mr. Jackson’s care, he might still be here today. This also brings up the issues of the correctness of that information, which so often is not, nor is pain generally adequately treated, which seems to have been the underlying problem of Mr. Jackson’s & sadly seems to, at this point, lead to his drug seeking behavior and ultimately his death.

   We will never know exactly what happened in his home, yet when his medications were changed, it seems clear that he grabbed whatever was available from any of his doctors, and under a variety of names, and either purposely took his own life, or added medications that took his life – regardless of the outcome of the trial. I’m not buying that this was just about “sleep”. There are other factors that have yet to be brought up in the trial. Perhaps we’ll see them yet?

3. Mo Says:
   October 13th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

   To Anonymoys~

   In all honesty, I didn’t read everything you posted since it was so long and I could have attention deficit disorder, but from what I read, you posted some thought provoking issues.

   As far as I read, the one thing I can bring up is that Micheal was treated by a cardiologist giving him propofol, an anesthetic, in a surrounding without monitors or any back up. Yes you were treated on different occasions, but they were in a hospital setting. Yes, doctors get “called away” to tend to other patients, but there are other medical professionals or staff on hand.

   After being given the propofol, Murray went to use the bathroom (or make 47 minutes of calls on his cell phone), leaving Micheal with no supervision. What doctor leaves his/her patient with access to drugs?

   I don’t believe Murray intended to kill Michael Jackson, but I do believe he is guilty, at least, of negligence and/or abandonment.

   As for Michael committing suicide, in spite of the pressures he was under, there is no evidence of it. A lot of speculation, but no evidence. We know Michael loved children, especially his own. It doesn’t seem reasonable that he would then commit suicide.

   Then again, some of Michael’s behavior seemed unreasonable BEFORE his upcoming tour, so who knows? However, I find it hard to believe he would commit suicide because of it.

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